John Culling1

#32224, b. 30 June 1771, d. 7 July 1837

Primary events

Secondary circumstances

Research Notes

  • Research note 01: There was a marriage between a John CULLING widower and a Susannah FLATMAN in St James Pockthorpe 27/1/1817. One of John's sisters married a FLATMAN, and John's first wife was a FLATMAN too..
  • Research note 02: John married his deceased wife's sister in 1817, which was against Canon Law. It became illegal in 1835. Wikipedia has -
    * The Deceased Wife's Sister's Marriage Act 1907 (7 Edw.7 c.47) was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, allowing a man, if his wife had died, to marry her sister.
    * Previously, it was forbidden for a man to marry the sister of his deceased wife. This prohibition derived from a doctrine of Canon Law whereby those who were connected by marriage were regarded as being related to each other in a way that made marriage between them improper. This doctrine was reflected in the Table of kindred and affinity in the Anglican (Church of England) Book of Common Prayer. Prohibition of marriage between certain degrees of kindred outlawed what is known as incest; prohibition between degrees of relationship by marriage (affinity) as opposed to blood (consanguinity) seems to have reflected an analogous taboo. At least one novel, Felicia Skene's The Inheritance of Evil; Or, the Consequences of Marrying a Deceased Wife's Sister (1849) addressed the topic in polemic fictional form.
    * Under ecclesiastical law, a marriage within the prohibited degrees was not absolutely void but it was voidable at the suit of any interested party. Matthew Boulton married his deceased wife's sister in 1760. He advised silence, secrecy and Scotland, although they married in London; the marriage was opposed by her brother. Similarly, Charles Austen, the younger brother of Jane Austen, married his deceased wife's sister in 1820 and remained married to her until he died in 1852.
    * The Marriage Act 1835, however, hardened the law into an absolute prohibition (whilst, however, authorising any such marriages which had already taken place), so that such marriages could no longer take place in the United Kingdom and colonies at all (in Scotland they were prohibited by a Scottish Marriage Act of 1567). Such marriages from that date had to take place abroad: see, for example, William Holman Hunt and John Collier, both painters, who married the sisters of their deceased wives in Italy and in Norway respectively. However, this was only possible for those who could afford it.
    * In 1842 a Marriage to a Deceased Wife's Sister Bill was introduced and defeated by strong opposition. "Although seemingly a minor skirmish, [it] had far-ranging implications and was fought on the political scene almost annually for most of the Victorian period".
    * The desire of widowed men to marry the sister of their deceased wife became the subject of particular agitation from the 1860s onwards and strong feelings were roused on both sides. However, it was to be nearly 50 years before the campaign for a change in the law was successful, despite the introduction of draft legislation in Parliament on many occasions. The lengthy nature of the campaign was referred to in the Gilbert and Sullivan opera Iolanthe, in which the Queen of the Fairies sings, "He shall prick that annual blister, marriage with deceased wife's sister"..
  • Research note 03: John and Sarah may have had a daughter named Sarah in 1816 in Norfolk. This info from V TEBBS and not yet confirmed.

Children of John Culling and Sarah Flatman

Children of John Culling and Susanna Flatman

Citations

  1. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Yelverton
    Church     St Mary the Virgin At
    RegisterNumber     
    DateOfBirth     
    BaptismDate     30 Jun 1771
    Forename     Jno.
    Sex     M
    FatherForename     Jno.
    MotherForename     Lydia
    FatherSurname     CULLING
    MotherSurname     
    Abode     
    FatherOccupation     
    Notes     
    FileNumber     5870.
  2. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Yelverton
    Church     St Mary the Virgin
    RegisterNumber     19
    BurialDate     02 Sep 1816
    Forename     Sarah
    Relationship     wife of
    Rel1MaleForename     John
    Rel1FemaleForename     
    Rel1Surname     CULLING
    Surname     CULLING
    Age     43
    Abode     Saxlingham
    Notes     Late Sarah FLATMAN. Died August 29th
    FileNumber     5868.
  3. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Yelverton
    Church     St Mary the Virgin At
    RegisterNumber     
    MarriageDate     16 Aug 1795
    GroomForename     John
    GroomSurname     CULLING
    GroomAge     
    GroomParish     This Parish
    GroomCondition     Bachelor
    GroomOccupation     
    GroomAbode     
    BrideForename     Sarah
    BrideSurname     FLATMAN
    BrideAge     
    BrideParish     The Same
    BrideCondition     Spinster
    BrideOccupation     
    BrideAbode     
    GroomFatherForename     
    GroomFatherSurname     
    GroomFatherOccupation     
    BrideFatherForename     
    BrideFatherSurname     
    BrideFatherOccupation     
    WitnessOneForename     John
    WitnessOneSurname     REEVE?
    WitnessTwoForename     Thos.
    WitnessTwoSurname     PARTRIDGE
    Notes     By Licence. Witness 3: Elizabeth FLATMAN
    FileNumber     5871.
  4. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Norwich
    Church     St James Pockthorpe
    RegisterNumber     69
    MarriageDate     27 Jan 1817
    GroomForename     John
    GroomSurname     CULLING
    GroomAge     
    GroomParish     Otp
    GroomCondition     Widower
    GroomOccupation     
    GroomAbode     
    BrideForename     Susanna
    BrideSurname     FLATMAN
    BrideAge     
    BrideParish     Otp
    BrideCondition     Spinster
    BrideOccupation     
    BrideAbode     
    GroomFatherForename     
    GroomFatherSurname     
    GroomFatherOccupation     
    BrideFatherForename     
    BrideFatherSurname     
    BrideFatherOccupation     
    WitnessOneForename     Robert
    WitnessOneSurname     TROWER
    WitnessTwoForename     Sarah
    WitnessTwoSurname     TROWER
    Notes     
    FileNumber     3095.
  5. International Genealogical Index (IGI), m044471.
  6. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Yelverton
    Church     St Mary the Virgin
    RegisterNumber     34
    MarriageDate     06 Nov 1829
    GroomForename     Luke
    GroomSurname     CULLING
    GroomAge     
    GroomParish     Alpington
    GroomCondition     Bachelor
    GroomOccupation     
    GroomAbode     
    BrideForename     Sarah
    BrideSurname     UTTING
    BrideAge     
    BrideParish     Alpington
    BrideCondition     Spinster
    BrideOccupation     
    BrideAbode     
    GroomFatherForename     
    GroomFatherSurname     
    GroomFatherOccupation     
    BrideFatherForename     
    BrideFatherSurname     
    BrideFatherOccupation     
    WitnessOneForename     John
    WitnessOneSurname     DAY
    WitnessTwoForename     J. Ives
    WitnessTwoSurname     DAY
    Notes     Wit 3: Samuel UTTING. Banns.
    FileNumber     5869.
  7. International Genealogical Index (IGI), spouse:     John Chapman
    groom's name:     John Chapman
    bride's name:     Lucy Culling
    marriage date:     25 May 1834
    marriage place:     St Michael At Thorn, Norwich, Norfolk, England
    indexing project (batch) number:     I07370-8
    system origin:     England-EASy
    source film number:     1526321
    Note - this is not an official transcription.
  8. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Yelverton
    Church     St Mary the Virgin
    RegisterNumber     55
    MarriageDate     12 Oct 1835
    GroomForename     Mark
    GroomSurname     CULLING
    GroomAge     
    GroomParish     Alpington
    GroomCondition     Bachelor
    GroomOccupation     
    GroomAbode     
    BrideForename     Caroline
    BrideSurname     CHAPMAN
    BrideAge     
    BrideParish     The Same
    BrideCondition     Spinster
    BrideOccupation     
    BrideAbode     
    GroomFatherForename     
    GroomFatherSurname     
    GroomFatherOccupation     
    BrideFatherForename     
    BrideFatherSurname     
    BrideFatherOccupation     
    WitnessOneForename     Sarah
    WitnessOneSurname     CULLING
    WitnessTwoForename     John
    WitnessTwoSurname     CULLING
    Notes     Wit 3: Samuel CULLING. Banns
    FileNumber     5869.
  9. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Yelverton
    Church     St Mary the Virgin
    RegisterNumber     134
    BurialDate     14 Jul 1837
    Forename     John
    Relationship     
    Rel1MaleForename     
    Rel1FemaleForename     
    Rel1Surname     
    Surname     CULLING
    Age     67
    Abode     Alpington
    Notes     Married Man. Died July 7
    FileNumber     5868.
  10. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Yelverton
    Church     St Mary the Virgin
    RegisterNumber     71
    BurialDate     10 Oct 1827
    Forename     Honor
    Relationship     daughter of
    Rel1MaleForename     John
    Rel1FemaleForename     Sarah
    Rel1Surname     CULLING
    Surname     CULLING
    Age     30
    Abode     Bergh Apton
    Notes     Sarah CULLING (late Sarah FLATMAN). Died Oct 6th
    FileNumber     5868.
  11. Free parish registers, online http://www.freereg.org.uk,      Norfolk
    Place     Yelverton
    Church     St Mary the Virgin
    RegisterNumber     177
    DateOfBirth     * * 1821
    BaptismDate     12 Nov 1837
    Forename     George Frederic Flatman
    Sex     M
    FatherForename     John
    MotherForename     Susan
    FatherSurname     CULLING
    MotherSurname     FLATMAN
    Abode     Alpington
    FatherOccupation     Farmer
    Notes     
    FileNumber     5867.